BEHOLD A COOPERPEDIA
Mystery Babylon #21: William Morgan Interview
Bill Cooper, aka Milton William Cooper, aka William Cooper
Catalog date: 1993-05-17
Tape: 96
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[00:05:29.090 to 00:05:52.680] Call now, 1-800-289-2646. You'll be glad that you did. Tonight's episode, part two of the interview with William Morgan, CAGI member. We have infiltrated the lodge, folks. Hear it yourself from the lips of a 32nd degree Freemason of the Scottish Rite of the Southern Jurisdiction.

[00:11:42.030 to 00:12:08.820] probably already know, folks, we only use the very best music on this program, the hour of the time. That was you, too, and I still haven't found what I'm looking for. You know, many of you write and ask why I let the music go on through the whole selection instead of fading it out and then bringing in the program. I do that, folks, out of sincere admiration and respect for the talent and the performance of the writer of the music, the lyrics.

[00:12:09.300 to 00:12:32.050] and of course those who perform. I love music, if you haven't guessed that already. Tonight is part two of our interview with William Morgan, and many of you are wondering if that's his real name. No, it is not. We protect CAGI members. We never tell anyone how many CAGI members we have, where they're at, what their names are.

[00:12:32.570 to 00:12:51.930] None of that information is given out, not even to other CAGI members. Now, we use the codename or the pseudonym of William Morgan simply because the name William Morgan is significant in the past of the secret society called Freemasonry.

[00:12:52.380 to 00:13:03.560] William Morgan was murdered by Freemasons after having revealed, printed in a book, some of the secrets of the lodge, and this was done back in the 1800s.

[00:13:03.830 to 00:13:32.520] Of course, the Fraternity of Freemasons denies that they murdered William Morgan. However, their version differs significantly from the official version and from the proof and the evidence that we have spent many, many hundreds of man hours digging up. And one of these nights, we're going to do a program just entirely on the murder of William Morgan. Will, welcome back to the Hour of the Time. Thank you, Bill. It's a pleasure to be here.

[00:13:34.140 to 00:13:55.120] I'm really proud and happy to be here and doing what I'm doing. You know, I don't think a lot of people realize that you're risking your life by doing this. The oaths that you have taken, albeit because they were fraudulent, you thought that you were making an oath to the God of the Bible. And in fact, you were making an oath to Lucifer, which nullifies those oaths.

[00:13:56.200 to 00:14:21.080] they still, the Brotherhood, the Order, the Illuminati, the Freemasons, could still carry out the threat of those oaths, which is murder. Is that not correct? Absolutely correct. No matter what I may personally feel about or what common law or the actual law may view about those oaths as taken, the Masons that are involved consider them to be absolutely applicable to any transgression.

[00:14:21.630 to 00:14:30.630] And they have been enforced, and the bloody punishments that are part of the oaths have happened to Masons before, and they will happen again, I'm sure.

[00:14:31.370 to 00:14:55.230] Now, you are what degree? Let's get that out for the people in case we have some new listeners tonight. What degree are you? I am a 32nd degree Freemason of the Scottish Rite of the Southern Jurisdiction of the United States. And what is the official title of that degree? The official title is the Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret, and that is not only the title of the degree, it is also the title of the ritual that the degree is conferred to.

[00:14:55.940 to 00:15:00.020] And just to show you how important that is, after going through the ritual

[00:15:00.000 to 00:15:07.500] and getting the degree conferred upon me, I can neither remember anything sublime or even remember what the secret was that they told me.

[00:15:08.920 to 00:15:33.500] Why is it that you couldn't remember the secrets of the degree? Well, that's a bit of a long story, and I won't go entirely into it, but it started off, the day I was conferred, began at 6 o'clock in the morning, and they just rushed through it. There was no memory work to do, as in the Blue Lodge, where a person has to memorize the ritual and then give it back. You just sit there and receive in an audience-like capacity.

[00:15:34.500 to 00:16:02.520] And when it came to swearing the oath, you merely held up your hand and said, I do. You also did take that oath on kneeling on one knee as you did in the Blue Lodge. Now, we talked yesterday after we recorded the last program that aired, I believe Friday, on WRNO. And this will air on Monday on WRNO. It will air at a different date on WWCR.

[00:16:03.560 to 00:16:19.070] So if you're listening on WWCR, don't let these dates confuse you. But we talked, and I asked you specifically if there was a part of Freemasonry where you raised your arm to the square, and what was your reply?

[00:16:19.900 to 00:16:47.380] Yes, there is a part where you raise your arm to the square. The first time I remember doing that action was in the second degree when it was conferred upon me. You raise your right hand as if you were swearing in. Actually, it is exactly the same position as if you're swearing in a court of law. Your left hand is placed flatly upon the Holy Bible or whatever holy text, depending on the lodge you're in, and your right hand is held at a right angle with the arm extended and an actual square, like an engineer's square.

[00:16:47.870 to 00:17:12.530] is held around the elbow of the arm. You're swearing in a square within a square, so to speak, as the ritual says. Now, if a Freemason were speaking in front of a group of what Masons call the profane, would it be fair to state that if the speaker stated something about when he raised his arm to the square,

[00:17:13.330 to 00:17:38.050] that this could be a recognition signal to notify other Freemasons in the audience that he was indeed a Freemason? Knowing what I know, I can hardly see it as anything else. There's no square involved in any other oath swearing ceremony that I've ever heard of, ever, not in a court of law. Only a square is involved in masonry. It's one of the primary tools that are symbolically referred to in all the ritual of the Blue Lodge.

[00:17:38.850 to 00:17:53.890] Now, many of you have heard this statement made by someone that you all listen to, and I want you to make that connection for yourselves. If you can't, there's no way. If you can't make that connection for yourself, then there's no need to telling you anymore about it anyway.

[00:17:56.340 to 00:18:09.580] Let's get into some of the ceremonies. How does this start? It begins in the Blue Lodge with the first degree of entered apprentice, and it goes up, and you've actually traversed 32 degrees of initiation. Are there side roads off of this?

[00:18:11.000 to 00:18:37.300] Yeah, well, it's a bit difficult. The Blue Lodge is where everything begins, and the Blue Lodge where Mason is initiated at is called the Mother Lodge from that time after, in specific reference to him personally. Now, once you get past the third degree, become a Master Mason in your Blue Lodge, you are able to hold an officer, hold a chair as an officer inside the lodge, and you can spend up to ten years going through the chairs and becoming an officer.

[00:18:37.740 to 00:19:03.950] But after that, you can either go to the Scottish Rite or the Yorkish Rite. There's a fork in the road of masonry. And the Scottish Rite is by far the most popular and undoubtedly the most powerful. Now, the York Rite has seven degrees. Is that true? True. The highest of which being the Knight Templar degree. For all those people out there who think that the Knight Templar is in no way associated with masons, you're dead wrong and you haven't done your homework.

[00:19:04.710 to 00:19:28.150] In fact, the Knights Templar, when they first began as an organization on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, were not an order commissioned or ordained or approved or even recognized by any church, much less the Catholic Church, but were, in fact, an order of the Mysteries. They began with seven degrees, and the seventh degree was the highest degree.

[00:19:28.680 to 00:19:46.830] And later, as they added degrees, when the Knights Templar were persecuted, and in fact, many of them were put to death. Others were driven into hiding in other countries. In some of the countries, they just changed their names and continued the order.

[00:19:50.690 to 00:19:59.710] They eventually reached a number of degrees, which was 33. And I took that right out of a very old

[00:19:59.700 to 00:20:13.080] textbook on the secret societies, which we'll talk about in a later program, and we'll get into that. But what is the significance that you've been told of the system of degrees? Why do you have to go through this?

[00:20:14.510 to 00:20:36.130] It's considered a road. It's considered a road to quote-unquote illumination. I really believe that it's more of a system of control and self-government. Lodges are pretty unique in America in that they are self-sustaining and self-governing, even with their own bit of enforcement. All lodges have been granted a charter from a Grand Lodge.

[00:20:36.380 to 00:20:54.140] And every Grand Lodge in this country has been granted a charter from the United States government to operate on its own and enforce its own laws and constitutions. If a police officer or any law enforcement officer walks into a lodge while in session, not only does he not have arrest power, but that lodge immediately closes.

[00:20:55.170 to 00:21:14.630] Now, this is something the American people don't know about. Now, if these are lobbyists, they're in states. They have nothing to do with the federal government. How could they receive a charter from the federal government saying that they're under their own laws? And how could it be the law enforcement officer would not have the authority to arrest or...

[00:21:16.290 to 00:21:37.110] any of his other authorized duties in a Freemasonic life. It beats the hell out of me, Bill. It's really a bit of a contradiction in terms. You have a government that has actually gone out and given government-type status to a completely and secret and, I think, subversive organization right under its own nose.

[00:21:38.410 to 00:22:04.090] A similar thing can be seen in the Mormon church and in other secret societies that are not nearly so famous as Freemasonry itself. The government has, by granting this charter, I believe, undermined its own stability as a functioning organization. Well, tell us about this charter. Tell us again what you said before. I don't want anyone to miss this because it's very important. It shows how secret government can be formed.

[00:22:04.620 to 00:22:33.660] It tells that these members of these secret societies literally have diplomatic immunity and can get away with whatever they want to get away with. Not only that, but they have their members sitting in the most powerful posts both within society on local levels, in local cities, local counties and state governments, in the higher echelons of the military, and they permeate all the positions of control within the bureaucracy of the federal government. So tell us what this charter is again.

[00:22:34.530 to 00:22:49.110] Okay, it's a document put out by the federal government, and it can be any government in the world. To my knowledge, every government in the world that has lodges in it has granted a sovereign charter to the Grand Lodges under its jurisdiction.

[00:22:51.070 to 00:23:14.910] I really haven't done enough research to speak at length on the nature of the charter or what it exactly implies universally for Freemasonry, but I do know for a fact that a law enforcement officer, and we have many law enforcement officers in our lodge, from state troopers to policemen to military policemen, they're not cops when they walk into the lodge. They leave their power, their badges, and their guns outside, and they do so willingly.

[00:23:16.990 to 00:23:41.430] That's a pretty good example, but I think the best example comes from the Knights of Malta. And here's another one for you guys out there that haven't done your homework. I'm reading from the glossary of a book entitled Freemasonry, A Celebration of the Craft, which is put out by the craft itself. And it defines Knights of Malta as a Christian Masonic degree based upon the medieval knight hospitaliers and emphasizing the Christian values, Christian virtues. Well, you can leave the Christian out of it if you like.

[00:23:42.070 to 00:24:10.690] What's interesting about the Knights of Malta is they actually do have diplomatic immunity as an organization. They can bring goods in and out of this country without going through customs, and they cannot be arrested or they cannot be detained or charged with any crime by any law enforcement officer in the country. They're above sovereign. As far as I know, they're above most government officials that are in the land. That's a fact, and they actually carry diplomatic passports. I know several people personally who are members of the Knights, the sovereign order, the military Knights.

[00:24:11.490 to 00:24:24.990] And they carry diplomatic passports, which began as citizens of the United States of America. Now, what happens when a police officer, and most police officers we have discovered,

[00:24:25.660 to 00:24:51.680] or at least the ones who make a law enforcement career. And most, if not all, judges sitting upon benches in this country are Freemasons. What happens when you're speeding down a highway and you're stopped by a law enforcement officer? What happens when he sees the Masonic emblem on your windshield? Usually what you have is a direct turnaround in attitude. I myself am a young man.

[00:24:54.330 to 00:24:59.950] I get hassled by cops a little bit. It seems like they always have cop in attitude when they pull me over,

[00:25:00.040 to 00:25:26.720] but when they see the Masonic Square encompasses on my car, and most importantly, when I flip out my dues-paying card, a card that all dues-paying Masons carry, the police officer, well, let me just put it this way, I've never once got a speeding ticket or a traffic ticket or have even been harassed in any way when they have known that I am a Mason. It just has not happened. That is my personal experience. So the justice system in this country doesn't really work, and Freemasons are, in effect, exempt.

[00:25:27.180 to 00:25:44.100] from the laws that the rest of us are supposed to follow. Is that true? Yeah, that could be probably considered as accurate, Bill. Although I disagree, it does work. It just doesn't work the way most people think it works. It works for them and with them and around them, and it works on the rest of you.

[00:25:44.610 to 00:26:02.950] That's right. Now, what happens when a Freemason goes into court against someone who's not a Freemason and the judge is a Freemason? Okay, well, you have a very subtle interaction that goes on. All Masons are taught secret signs and secret words and secret phrases, and this is some of the most...

[00:26:05.180 to 00:26:28.340] This is what they don't want revealed more than anything else. You can stand in a particular position. You can hold your arms in a particular position. You can speak certain words, the widow's son, traveling man, key words and phrases that will let this judge know that you are a Mason. And you can almost guarantee that he is a Mason, too, or else he wouldn't have been able to lock down a lasting career in the judiciary. That's correct.

[00:26:28.920 to 00:26:42.100] And that would explain why some people just don't seem to ever get prosecuted for anything, and others who may commit the same crime are a much lesser offense.

[00:26:42.830 to 00:27:05.770] seem to be inordinately punished, given such a heavy burden of punishment, while others who have done the same thing receive either nothing or a pat on the wrist. Well, brothers look out for each other. It's just the way the system works. It's a buddy system. It's a you scratch my back, I scratch yours. As a matter of fact, in the oath that Mason swears,

[00:27:06.140 to 00:27:31.160] He swears that he will uphold and defend a Mason, a fellow Mason, and any problem that he may encounter, treason and murder alone accepted, but they left at their election, which means that even if a fellow Mason is a traitor to his country, we know that could never happen, if he's a traitor to his country, his brother Mason has his own choice whether he wants to turn him in or not. He is not obligated to do so, and...

[00:27:32.020 to 00:27:56.620] obeying the laws of masonry above the laws of the land, he's probably not even going to consider it. So, in other words, one way of infiltrating and controlling our society and our government, both on a local, state, and national level, and the military, is for one of the Freemasons to get into a position where he can then appoint or hire Freemasons below him. When people come to apply for that job, who gets the job?

[00:27:57.640 to 00:28:24.720] That's self-explanatory. The mason will get the job every time. Another part of the oath is that you will look out for the interest of your brother masons in whatever capacity they may be in. In fact, it could probably be construed that not giving the job to a brother mason would bring serious repercussions if discovered inside the lodge and may even be a violation of the oath. There you go, folks. All of you who have been telling me that I'm full of crap and that I don't know what I'm talking about and that they haven't infiltrated.

[00:28:25.050 to 00:28:53.960] and appointed their members below them, and literally taken over all levels of society, both local, state, and federal, and the military, you just heard it from the lips of a 32nd degree Freemason. That is exactly how they do it, and that is exactly what has been done. You have to understand that since this country was conceived and brought into reality, Freemasons have controlled it. And their goal, always, from the beginning,

[00:28:54.660 to 00:29:23.960] was to bring about a one-world totalitarian socialist government. Our forefathers knew full well the foibles of human nature. And this country was described in their own words as the great experiment. And the experiment, folks, was to find out if we truly could be responsible, could rule ourselves, would not give in to the foibles of human nature and give our country and our individual freedoms and rights away.

[00:29:25.000 to 00:29:48.040] But they knew when they did it that that's exactly what would happen because they were probably the best at understanding human nature of anyone that I've ever read. And I've read all of their writings and letters and works and the Federalist Papers and everything else that they've done. And they knew full well that this people would give away what they built.

[00:29:48.710 to 00:29:59.880] And they knew that if we could be responsible, if we would not be apathetic, if we would not cave in to the desires of socialism, to the weaknesses of human nature,

[00:29:59.940 to 00:30:10.920] that this would have been the New World Order. We have failed, not them. They gave us every chance, folks. So don't get mad at our forefathers.

[00:30:13.140 to 00:30:40.480] Would you concur with what I've just said? I couldn't argue with you, and I wouldn't want to start an argument with you, Bill. I have heard higher-level Masons refer to the United States in their writings and in person as a Mason nation. It is erected by them. If you look at the signers of the Declaration of Independence, if you look at the forefathers, you'll see who was involved at the very beginning of this thing. I'm not saying that all our forefathers were bad or evil. They certainly are not. They created the greatest nation ever known to man.

[00:30:41.050 to 00:30:57.800] But some of them were Illuminati, and there's no denying that. The course that they set us upon was, in the end, self-defeating for us. Okay, folks, don't go away. We've got to take our break. I'll be right back with William Morgan after this very short pause.

[00:31:00.340 to 00:31:04.580] Hello, folks. This is William Cooper once again for Swiss America Trading.

[00:31:05.220 to 00:31:35.020] You know, as I travel all over this country, many of you come up to me after my lectures or before and ask me how you can protect your assets. We all know what's coming. Most of you listening to this program are extremely well-educated in the hidden or suppressed information. You understand money. You understand the Federal Reserve. You understand what's really happened to this country, unless you're a new listener.

[00:31:36.640 to 00:32:02.790] And even if you are, some of you who are new listeners have been studying this material for a long, long time. And the reason you're a new listener is someone else in your group has turned you on to the hour of the time. Well, if you know all of this, folks, then you need to call Swiss America Trading because you know exactly what kind of investments you need to make in order to survive the coming economic trauma.

[00:32:05.890 to 00:32:34.650] Swiss America Trading provides all of those investments. They also provide some of the investments that we don't know anything about here anyway at the hour of the time, and some that I don't recommend, but their job is to cater to the public, so they provide whatever the public might conceivably want, specifically in the form of precious metal investments. Bullion, junk silver, gold.

[00:32:35.420 to 00:32:59.630] Gold bullion coins, numismatic coins. However, they're not like some. They do not, it would not, advise you to jump into an investment on a nickel and pay $5,000 for it, knowing full well that the metal value in that nickel is probably two or three cents. If that.

[00:33:01.860 to 00:33:32.170] They would never give you that kind of advice, folks, and neither would I. In fact, that's one of the things that I specifically advised you against. I don't care if it's an MS69 or 70 or however high the MS rating goes, if it's even a gold coin. If you pay $5,000 for that gold coin and the actual metal value content in that coin is less than $100,

[00:33:33.240 to 00:34:03.700] You've made a big mistake, in my estimation. However, if you want to put your money in that kind of investment, that's up to you. Go ahead and do it. Our advice is not to. And we've done many shows on why our advice is not to do that. Simply because when the entire economy collapses, when we go into a depression, or an inflationary period of such a magnitude as we're expecting coming up in the near future, no one is going to have any money.

[00:34:04.250 to 00:34:27.960] to buy that coin from you. It will not be liquid anymore. And not only that, nobody's going to want to except the super wealthy who will then be able to name their own price. And you won't have anything to say about it. Anybody that's given you a guarantee that they will buy it back at the same price that you paid for it is not going to be in business.

[00:34:28.510 to 00:34:59.970] You say, well, how can they do that when they gave me a guarantee? Well, it's simple, folks. All they have to do is liquidate the business and go out of business, and your guarantee goes out the window with the business. I mean, come on, haven't you learned something in your life by now? Swiss America Trading, folks, will recommend to you investments that will enable you to keep your assets. Now, remember all this talk about if the economy fails, the price of gold is going to

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[00:41:18.370 to 00:41:21.900] on this program. Out there, all

[00:41:24.820 to 00:41:51.110] the secret societies that are subverting the Constitution of the United States, the Bill of Rights, I call them cockroaches. I don't know what the rest of you call them, but that's what they are. They claim to be looking for the light, but every time you turn the light on them, they scurry under the sink, run for cover. You know, it occurs to me that I need to tell you folks out there something. This young man who's on this program is a member of the Citizens Agency for Joint Intelligence, and there are literally hundreds of brave men and women.

[00:41:51.670 to 00:42:09.590] all over this country and the world who are gathering information, bringing the truth out into the open. We are all working for freedom. It is the largest and most successful civilian intelligence gathering organization in the world. And our goal is freedom.

[00:42:10.330 to 00:42:33.960] to preserve freedom in this country, the United States, preserve the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, because it's the last bastion, the last wall between us and freedom, and try to institute freedom in all of the rest of the world. That's our only purpose, our only purpose. We are in support of freedom for all peoples, all peoples, everywhere.

[00:42:34.690 to 00:42:54.080] This young man on the show has risked his life to tell you what he's telling you tonight, and if his identity were ever to be discovered, he could be murdered by the secret societies that he is revealing. He is one of my heroes. Most of the people in Kaji

[00:42:54.720 to 00:43:25.280] who are helping us to do this. Most of them working in intense secret, in dangerous situations. We have people who have infiltrated satanic organizations and are feeding us the information on their rituals and who they are and what they're all about. And the instant that they were to be discovered, they would be murdered. You don't seem to understand that this organization that I built, the Citizens Agency for Joint Intelligence, is vital.

[00:43:25.950 to 00:43:40.920] is vital to the freedom of the United States of America and to the world. The governmental intelligence agencies are in the control of the secret societies and are not working on our behalf and never have been, folks. I hope you understand that.

[00:43:42.300 to 00:44:06.240] Let's go back to Will. You've got something in front of you, and I believe it's a list of Freemasons throughout history that people would recognize their names, and if they don't readily recognize their names, they could go to any reference book and find these names and their biographies in any library. Would you like to tell our listening audience who some of these people are?

[00:44:06.560 to 00:44:33.940] Uh, yeah, there's some really, uh, names that, uh, you'll really recognize here, but before I do, let me thank you, Bill Cooper, for reminding me that my brothers might murder me just for telling the truth. Um, here's one. Colonel Bell Galdron. Simon Boliver. Uh, Omar Bradley. Edmund Burke. Richard Bird. Kit Carson. Um, Walter Chrysler. Buffalo Bill Cody. Ty Cobb.

[00:44:34.460 to 00:45:00.120] Winston Churchill. The list just goes on and on. Gordon Cooper, Edwin Drake, Jack Dempsey, Cecil B. DeMille. You know, you're missing Winston Churchill, and one of the things that the listening audience does not know is that not only Winston Churchill was a Freemason, but so was Harry Truman, and so was Mr. Stalin. So when they had their meeting

[00:45:00.120 to 00:45:14.620] at Yalta, here was three 33rd degree Freemasons deciding the fate of the world. And for all of you who couldn't figure out why they made the decisions that they made at Yalta that so screwed up the world, now you know.

[00:45:15.440 to 00:45:35.700] Please continue. Thanks. Yeah, they should have just held that Yelp meeting in a lodge and been open about it. Okay, here's some more for us. Duke Ellington, Henry Ford, Benjamin Franklin, Clark Gable, John Glenn, Gleck, Richard Gatling, inventor of the Gatling gun, Samuel Gompers, Prince Hall, Manly Palmer.

[00:45:36.510 to 00:46:03.470] Oh, yeah, Joseph Guillotine. We've been at the Guillotine. We'll be seeing more of that later. Oh, boy. There's just not enough time. Edgar Hoover. Sam Houston. For those of you who did not understand his reference to we'll be seeing more of the Guillotine later, when the New World Order actually succeeds in taking control of the world, executions will be public, and the secret societies believe in blood atonement.

[00:46:03.910 to 00:46:09.710] In other words, you can only atone for your wrongdoing by your works or...

[00:46:10.210 to 00:46:35.770] by the shedding of your blood, blood atonement. So in these public executions, there will have to be the maximum amount of blood. Public executions will be held as an object lesson to the rest of the population not to oppose the New World Order, for it is the most terrible, terrifying experience to see someone literally beheaded is intended to cow everyone else.

[00:46:36.320 to 00:47:00.630] and is, in fact, will be, in fact, a ritualistic sacrifice to the god of the secret societies, who we all know now is Lucifer, also known as Satan. You know, Bill, just dawn on me just what a fun guy you really are. Here's a short list of presidents of the United States who have been masons. George Washington, James Monroe, Andrew Jackson, James Polk.

[00:47:01.230 to 00:47:15.530] Yeah, James Polk, James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, James Garfield, William McKinley, Teddy Roosevelt, William Taft, Warren Harding, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson, Gerald Ford, and I also know for a fact that George Bush is a Mason and that Ronald Reagan was made a Mason on site.

[00:47:17.220 to 00:47:42.760] Like I said, the list just goes on and on. And these are not even a partial, partial fraction of a percent of the famous Masons that have existed throughout history. Well, John Wayne was a Freemason, wasn't he? The Duke. The Duke was a Freemason. Absolutely true. And, you know, we're not in any way belittling the accomplishments or the contributions to society of any of these people. We just wanted to let you know that...

[00:47:43.110 to 00:48:07.150] This covers all areas of society, all levels of society, all occupations, and that many famous people whom you all recognize have been or are members of these secret societies. Now, many of them are taken in as window dressing. In other words, they don't really know what they're a part of. They're told that it's a fraternal organization existing for the good of the community.

[00:48:08.030 to 00:48:32.930] And, of course, in any organization, if you can get famous celebrities to belong, that's a feather in your cap because the public, for some reason, thinks that if a celebrity belongs to something, then there can be nothing wrong with it. What sheeple. What total crap. But that's the way people believe. That's absolutely true. Most of the celebrity names that I mention in this list are there just simply as window dressings.

[00:48:33.560 to 00:48:56.400] to give a good appearance to the craft, but some of them absolutely are not. And I'm reading still from this book published by Masonic Publishing Company, and it states that Joseph Smith, founder of the Mormon Church, was absolutely and undeniably a Freemason. Did you find Giuseppe Mazzini in there? Yeah, I sure did. I should have done the homework. It's Giuseppe Mazzini, 1805-1872, Italian Patriot.

[00:48:56.830 to 00:49:24.590] He was also one of the best friends and correspondents of Albert Pike, who was the head of World Freemasonry for a while and the head of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry in this country. He established with others the Ku Klux Klan, the branch of Freemasonry known as B'nai B'rith, which the ADL operates out of. And the ADL, folks, for those of you who don't know it, are under intense investigation now for spying upon agencies.

[00:49:25.360 to 00:49:37.460] and departments of the United States government and police departments and actually stealing records and passing them on to the secret societies and to the state of Israel.

[00:49:38.780 to 00:50:00.080] So you'd really better wake up out there and don't give me this stuff that it's the Jews, that it's the blacks, that it's this, it's that. It's not. It's not. Ordinary people like you and me, I don't care what their skin color is, I don't care what their religion is, are just like you and me and all they want to do is live in peace. There are elements and organizations and people

[00:50:00.020 to 00:50:19.620] belonging to all the different ethnic groups, all of the different religions, all of the different organizations, corporations, governments, anything that you want to name belong to these secret societies. The Jews have been used as scapegoats throughout history. The Freemasonic organization and the secret societies in general are racist.

[00:50:20.520 to 00:50:35.870] They believe that the races, the white Caucasian races in Europe, Germany, England are the superior race, are the real Israelites.

[00:50:37.060 to 00:50:50.700] They are the ones who have orchestrated and brought about the state of Israel. They are the ones who maintain the force of Zionism active in the world. The Mormon Church is a great part of this.

[00:50:52.990 to 00:51:12.590] I mean, if you just get down and dirty on this, you'll find that what I'm telling you is absolutely true. And one of their main weapons that they use against us is to divide us against each other so that while we're running around stabbing each other in the back, they are putting the chains on all of us. And when are you people going to realize that?

[00:51:12.840 to 00:51:40.570] and understand it. All during the Cold War, there were no Russian families sitting around their table plotting on how to do away with Americans, and there weren't any American families doing that either. All of us were concerned with our children, with putting food on the table, with educating our children, with trying to build some kind of a good life. That's all that ordinary people care about. It doesn't matter what race they belong to, what religion they belong to.

[00:51:43.100 to 00:52:11.740] Bravo, Bill. If there's a lesson that the listeners can go home with, it is that. Stop this racist divisionism. Come together and see the enemy for who it is. Actually, like I said on the last program, you cannot enjoy the protection of the secret societies forever. With a little bit of homework, you can find out who financed Hitler in World War II. Anybody that knows history knows that as soon as Hitler got to where he was at in power, who did he initiate a program against? It wasn't just Jews.

[00:52:12.090 to 00:52:37.990] He got rid of all the Freemasons who were the window dressing in Germany and in Austria, who put him where he was at and protected his interests. He zapped them. He nuked them. They were gone. They joined the Jews and the Gypsies in the concentration camps, and they were never heard from again. And to this day, many German Freemasons wear a small flower on their lapel in remembrance of that tragic event. You cannot enjoy that protection forever. You are doomed to fail if you depend on these people for your life.

[00:52:38.250 to 00:53:05.980] That's correct. Remember, the primary method that they use is this. Conflict creates change. They create the conflict that they know will bring about the solution that they want. They get it to appear as if the people are screaming for the solution, and then they give it to them. Something that the people would never have accepted in the first place. But remember, conflict creates change. They believe in the Hegelian principle of conflict.

[00:53:07.430 to 00:53:26.260] You have a thesis, an antithesis, and the clash of these two creates the solution to the problem which they've been aiming for all along. Now, you also have to understand that controlled conflict creates desired results or change.

[00:53:26.810 to 00:53:56.400] So the method of bringing about controlled conflict is to have your people leading both sides of the conflict. So when you talk about Republican or Democrat, forget it. At the highest level, they're both the same. When you talk about populist versus communist or whatever it is, forget it. At the highest level, they all belong to the same organization. When you look around in the patriot movement, remember most of the leaders in the patriot movement,

[00:53:57.720 to 00:54:25.770] on the same side and belong to the same organizations as the leaders of the secret societies that are trying to destroy this country. The conflict between the two, which they are trying to create now, will ensure the destruction of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and then they will step forward with the answer. A thousand years of peace under the United Nations, but you're going to have to make concessions to get it.

[00:54:26.210 to 00:54:35.520] You're going to have to give up your freedoms, your individual rights. But they will protect you if you buy that, folks. You are indeed a fool.

[00:54:36.800 to 00:54:59.760] Does this confirm what you've discovered in your quest for the truth? It certainly does. It is history repeating itself with empty promises of nirvana and utopia on earth that has never come true, and you always have to be the one to pay for it. Always. It's just these people do not believe in a fair fight. They do not join a race that they have not

[00:54:59.780 to 00:55:27.180] fixed. They don't take those kind of risks. Okay, you've got about ten seconds. If you had the ability to say something to the American people and to the world, what would it be? It would be to wake up, folks. Look, you've got an enemy out there. They're coming together. There's a convention of Southern Batches that have come against the Freemasons meeting in Houston in 15, 16, 17 of June of this year. I suggest that you look into that. That's right, folks. And?

[00:55:28.160 to 00:55:45.520] Good night. Thank you, Will, for being our special guest and for putting yourself in danger for all of the rest of our freedoms and for freedom of the world. I, for one, appreciate that. You are my hero. Good night, and God bless you all.

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